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If you are going to be going back to all the pages I make to change them, perhaps you should do the initial pages in the first place. Every title I've done (all Barbarians, Bards, Empaths, Cleric, Paladin) are done the same way. --Naeya (talk) 07:10, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Hmm well I see some were mistakes, but others were simple changes to match the trader titles you did. IE Adding "the" in front of Highest Armor/Weapon or changing the skill links from Teaching to "the Teaching skill". Just a note saying that if that's what you'll be changing, ALL of the titles I've done do not have "the" as I matched them off the official title lists. Personally, I'd rather have it say "so and so in Teaching" as opposed to "the Teaching skill". The article (the) really isn't necessary.--Naeya (talk) 08:53, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
I was mainly doing it for consistency, and doing it as [[Teaching skill|Teaching]] is more work than {{skill|Teaching}} imo. And if we have it written as "Teaching Skill" the article really should be there. I was not planning on simply going through all yours, was just working my way down the Guild list instead of starting anywhere arbitrary, as I don't want to have to backtrack. (and of course, this way, I can help catch any typo's/mistakes early)--Callek 11:06, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
Fair enough. I concede, again.--Naeya (talk) 13:30, 2 April 2007 (CDT)

Wheller's maps

How about making a page for Wheller's maps and listing the link at the top along with the other mappers? This will allow others to at least FIND the maps without actually SEARCHing for them.

That or give folks an option, wheller's maps, ranik's maps, whoever's maps. If a user can't see the maps, there's no reason for me to even make them, hours in photoshop cleaning up the whites...

That's fine by me, as long as it's a link to a separate page, not a listing on the Ranik's page.--Naeya (talk) 08:24, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
My only concern with listing them as the "same weight" as Ranik's is that there are only two "Whellers Maps" so far. But that sounds fine by me, a "Wheller's Maps" and a "Ranik's Maps", both linked from "Maps" --Callek 08:53, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
Hmm, well Maps currently redirects to Ranik Maps. I vote we can put the link at the top in the Mappers/Other Mappers section, similar to the addition of Kythryn's link. Many viewers still use the direct link to Ranik's Maps since that's what the wiki started out as strictly hosting. Not a listing of Wheller's like he originally put, but a link to a separate page for his mana maps within the wiki.--Naeya (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2007 (CDT)


I moved the pages like you were thinking (I think), hoping I got it right, just getting the hang of this stuff. I didn't even think about that stuff when I started putting pages in for item descriptions. Grace 12:27, 21 April 2007 (CDT)


Oops. Ok I'll try and remember that and not be so noobtastic. Grace 10:15, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

Gnome - Help

Yeah it's just not intuitive for me. There's a disconnect between what's being displayed on the page and the link.

For example, on the page for Annael, the category displays as 'Empath', but the hyperlink points to 'Category: Empath'. I'm very confused on what to type. Is it "[[:Empath]]", ":[[Empath]]", "Category:[[Empath]]", "[[Category: Empath]]"? none of these are returning the proper desired results. --Gnome 19:28, 23 April 2007 (CDT)?


You can indeed hunt horses in the wild, bug-free. Rizitel does it habitually, if only to annoy the people who (anachronistically) whine about how it's disgusting to hunt them. Please un-delete my horse article, because I don't know how to do that. Please don't delete articles unless you know for sure what you're talking about. --Kadru


Left comments per your request. Thanks! --Ahnoui 21:41, 3 December 2007 (CST)

Map 126

You're welcome and thanks for the feed back! That's not a nice place to find out you don't know where you're going! Do you mean the "go wall" label?--Lyathe 01:06, 5 December 2007 (CST)


I had noticed that several links to the article were changed to Chelia Redthorne an article and figured I may as well redirect it to the more complete article name. It's not a big deal if you want me to go ahead and move it back to Chelia and leave Chelia Redthorne as a redirect. Incidentally, where is the Manual of Style? Reene 22:55, 6 December 2007 (CST)

Elanthipedia:Manual_of_Style - Though as you can see, as of this posting it is blank. It's on my "to-do" list.--Naeya (talk) 23:38, 6 December 2007 (CST)
I can go ahead and do the move then... no big deal (probably easier if a sysop does it, as we can preserve history that way easily) Was just making sure there wasn't some other reason I was unaware of --Callek 00:12, 7 December 2007 (CST)
...and I spoke too soon. Thanks for fixing it ahead of me Reene! --Callek 00:14, 7 December 2007 (CST)


yo I actually was asked to put Garfield on that user page but you're the boss big man Guaranzo 22:43, 21 December 2007 (CST)

I was totally ok with this - I thought it was funny and approved it. --Ahnoui 00:11, 26 December 2007 (CST)

Templates and Standardization

It occurred to me that standardization seems to be a big issue all accoss subjects. Take a look at this and see what you think. --Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi 13:59, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

ItemProperties Template

What were you trying to do? Maybe I can help. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 18:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to make the appraised value show the mini dialog of other currencies, you seemed to fix that for me ;-) --Callek 13:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


I had to make a bugfix to your alterations to Template:Title. #ask won't do a string search so your search for the page name would have always returned 0. Take a look at what I did and make sure that it still does what you mean it to, just in case. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 05:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how {{#ask: [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]] ... I used that because it expands to either: Title:Foo or Bar depending on where its located, and we need the FULL name for it to match based on PAGE itself, which does work. Having to search based on prettyname will fail efforts here when things such as (trader) are appended to the page itself. Where the title appears multiple places, in multiple categories. --Callek 18:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
See Also: --Callek 18:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Interesting. As of last night when I posted, when I tried to use #ask to search for page names, it came up with nothing no matter what name I used. This morning, it's working.... I'm confused, but I reverted it to your original code and it seems to be working. Dunno. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 20:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Your change still does {{{titlename|{{PAGENAME}}}}}} which is basically the same thing... only fails more, (will fail on Title:Bar and in cases where Hauler (Trader title) -- because it assumes pretty name if specified, and ignores namespace) the [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]] is the only syntax I can think of that should work reliably. --Callek 20:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Yep, you're right. I rushed through without thinking about it. Fixed... I think.-Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 20:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Incomplete Handling

You're idea for incomplete handling that you set up on the Template:Title page is a great idea. It hadn't even occurred to me to use semantic searches to trigger that. Well, I'm going to rewrite them all to trigger the incomplete dialog if the page has a Property:missing tag active. Kudos! -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 21:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea, it will work quite well! --Callek 23:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Trader Titles

Callek, can you take a look at the Trader titles page for me? I updated some yesterday and it took awhile for them to show up, is that normal? And when they did they are now out of order (alphabetically). Also, some list the Trading req before the Appraisal one, and others vice versa, despite them all being in the same order on the title page themselves. Just wanted to let you know that stuff before I fill in a lot more. Azhag 21:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Without looking too heavily, first I think it takes a bit for the Semantic stuff to update (via template inclusion-fu). so click "refresh" on top right of both the Title page you are adding/handling, and then on the Trader Titles page itself. As far as ordering we order by difficulty of the title not alphabetically, (though I think we can probably setup the table to easily allow ordering based on that, but I'm not about to do it at this moment). Ordering of the req's is bound to be fairly "random" on the list, due to SQL driving the TitleReq stuff in semantic mediawiki, I do not (yet) know of a way to easily sort those results, or "how" we should... perhaps myself or Caraamon can figure out a way to do that (well), I'm not expecting miracles there though. --Callek 23:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I just won't bother assigning difficulties until a better system is agreed upon then. Azhag 04:11, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I should note, that if you load Category:Trader Titles it will be alphabetical!
Trader titles are more or less done, all documented ones and undocumented until at least 70th are included with requirements where known, but like I said to you the other day a bunch from the official site are wrong so I guess they can just get updated as they're found. Can you refresh any pages that need it, and on the Trader titles page perhaps increase the TitleAsk element from 50 to large enough to show them all? Azhag 02:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
One thing I noticed, while adding title information, is that yes, even hitting refresh in the category section won't fill in the information - however, if you go into edit on that page, show preview, you'll see all the title information populated. Save, and it updates. However, for title category sections that have more than are displayed (it has the show more at the bottom of the section), those seem to update for the most part on their own. - Uthrecht 17:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


I hate templates. grumble grumble grumble grumble. (no, this didn't have a point)-Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 07:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Replied on my page again -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Gem Pouch Article

I've edited it, added a couple additional notes, and made a post on the discussion page that you might want to peek at.
Also, you might wanna archive some of your completely topics on this page. :P -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 21:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Policy on Negative Posts

You may want to take a peek at this: Elanthipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/PCs. I'm trying to get a consensus on the policy for adding negative information about players and player groups. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 23:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Shield:dark stained target shield

The appraisal listed for this shield is incorrect. I'd like to update it with what I have below.

Look: The center of this circular shield has been adorned with a short, cone-shaped iron spike. Uneven dark streaks stain the course grain lying within the wooden shield.

You are certain that it imposes an insignificant maneuvering hinderance.

This shield is small in size.

You are certain that the shield offers very poor to moderate protection.

You are certain that it could do:

 low puncture damage
 no slice damage
 fair impact damage

You are certain that the shield is fairly balanced and is poorly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the target shield is of average strength, and is in pristine condition.

It appears that the target shield can be worn on the left arm. You are certain that the target shield weighs exactly 70 stones. You are certain that the target shield is worth exactly 1000 kronars, 800 lirums, or 721 dokoras. - Gidske

Yes go ahead, its definitely a wiki, and if you notice things wrong, by all means fix them. (and ESPECIALLY when they are currently not fully filled out. like that page is) You can use the "Edit with form" depending on how comfortable you are with wiki syntax. -- Callek 05:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Map Infobox

You basically beat me to it, though it was fairly far down on my list of things to do. That's the reason I created the tags for what maps, towns and provinces various pages "belong" to. If you want, go ahead and do the same for NPCs and beasts. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 05:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Replied about inkhorns on my page.-Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Replied on my page. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 18:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I also watch Recent changes, so in general no need to do the "replied on.." to me ;-) --Callek 18:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


Replied. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 23:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Critter Templates

Check out Template:Critter and Thunder Ram and tell me if you like it. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 07:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Electrical Dilettante

Looks like the Electrical Dilettante title (Warrior Mage) is a duplicate (and incorrect name) of Electricity Dilettante. Not sure how to delete it myself, so wanted to pass it on. - Uthrecht 17:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Done --Callek 17:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Search Template

Replied on my page. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 22:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I'm new at this. Thank you for the information I'll read up on it.


Replied on my page. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Newbie here ...

Never interacted with a Wiki before and somehow didn't realize ANYbody could go in and put in info. So I started ... and now I can't stop!

Question: Is it a bad idea for me to go in and create pages for items if all I'm basically adding is the look and where it's worn (since price and location for the fest stuff is already linked ...)? I feel like leaving out weight and app price is going to be a pain in somebody's butt later, but I'm not capable of obtaining them (as my appraisal isn't high enough).

Skizzy 03:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on Skizzy's Talk Page
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