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Note -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see Thief (Disambiguation).

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Thief Guild

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Primary Skillset: Survival
Secondary Skillsets: Weapon, Lore
Tertiary Skillsets: Armor, Magic
Special Abilities: Khri, Backstab, Sign, Passages, Voice Throw, Slip, Contacts, Lockpick Carving, Poison Resistance, Mark
Mana Type: None
Barbarian - Bard - Cleric - Commoner - Empath - Moon Mage

Necromancer - Paladin - Ranger - Thief - Trader - Warrior Mage

Beyond skulking in shadows and relieving the careless of their burden of coin, Thieves' superior stealth, hyper-aware senses, and familiarity with locks and traps make them valuable additions to any adventuring party.

A life in the shadows is like no other -- never above the law, but always one step in front of it.


Official Information

Guild crest: A blank charger shrouded by a concealing veil
Information courtesy of Dragonrealms Website.

Guild Hall Locations

That is a secret -- think of gaining entry to the guild as your first test.

The young snake Kalag the sly has brought order to the guild.
Crow and Swan watch over their den.
The guild hall here is managed by Saishla.
The criminal element of Qi'Reshalia is overseen by Dwillig.
The Elven mistress Ivitha holds this province in an iron grip.

Skillsets and Common Races

A Thief's primary skillset is Survival. Weapon and Lore are secondary skillsets, with Magic and Armor as tertiaries.

According to the DragonRealms website, Thieves tend to be:

Elven 26%
Human 20%
Halfling 15%
Prydaen 11%
S'Kra Mur 10%

Crafting Affiliation

Guilded thieves receive two free technique slots in the Carving discipline of the Engineering skill and one free technique slot in the Poison discipline of the Alchemy skill.

See: Crafting

Guild Abilities

Most of these are considered in-game secrets.

Skill Bonusing System

Urban Bonus

This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. SMIRK can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks.


This is a reflection of how the guild currently views the member. Bringing heat down upon the guild by being caught breaking the law of the province will lower the reputation of the member causing the thief to be without the aid of the guild as a whole. A thief with a reputation at the lowest point will be punished when entering the guild by Death. Standing in the guild can be raised with donations of stolen goods into the appropriate bins, performing a TASK for an NPC associated with the Thief Guild and by not being wanted by the law of the province.


This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can SMIRK(see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks.

  • Not yet completely implemented, right now only stealth, backstab, and thievery will modify a thief's confidence. Will be changed when fully implemented.


BACKSTABbing is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding and inserting a narrow blade into an important organ. This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. Backstabbing can only be performed using Small Edged (light or medium) weapons that weigh 30 stones or under and must be performed from hiding at melee distance. Backstabbing utilizes and teaches the Backstab skill, a weapon skill, and the Stealth skill versus an opponents Perception skill and limited defenses. Only bipeds can be backstabbed, including these Creatures.

Sign Language

A secret language using slight hand gestures to communicate between Thieves. This ability is taught by the silent guildleader, Crow. At least one hand must be empty to perform SIGN. Each sign creates a random chance that someone in the room will notice the signing, though they won't be able to interpret it.


Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town. In Shard there is a large interconnected passage system. In Riverhaven there is small passage system with 3 entry points. In Throne City a passage there allows access to the rooftop of the Museum of Imperial History.


The guild has CONTACTs in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5, which can be doing work simultaneously.

USAGE: CONTACT <PERSON> [FIND|TELL] ([Message] When used with TELL.)

CONTACT GUILD while in Riverhaven for a hint to guild location.
CONTACT FIX while holding the item in your RIGHT hand.
CONTACT <PERSON> DELIVER while holding the item in your RIGHT hand.
Valid cities are:
Crossings, Leth, Riverhaven, Langenfirth
Theren, Shard, Ratha, Aesry, Taisgath
Mer'Kresh, Throne City, Muspar'i, Hibarnhvidar
ALL will search every city, but at a substantial cost
Valid options are:
THEFT (default) - Sends your thugs after a non-Thief who steals.
ITEM - Sends your thugs to collect Ambika items from non-Thieves.
GRAVEROB - Sends your thugs after any Thief grave robber.

Lockpick Carving

Lockpick repair and Lockpick CARVing are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the Lockpick Carving article.


KHRI is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to heightened awareness and dexterity. The Khri are taught by various guild leaders. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. You can get Focus, Hasten, and Darken at 10th circle. From then on you can learn a new Khri of your choice every 5 circles.

Category:Combination KhriKhri SecureKhri SpeedKhri SparKhri SkulkKhri PrescienceKhri CunningCategory:Subtlety TreeCategory:Finesse TreeCategory:Potency TreeKhri DarkenKhri HastenKhri FocusKhri ProwessKhri SightKhri CalmKhri SteadyKhri EliminateKhri SerenityKhri SafeKhri AvoidanceKhri PlunderKhri FlightKhri LiberationKhri GuileKhri ElusionKhri DampenKhri StrikeKhri SilenceKhri ShadowstepKhri SensingKhri VanishKhri SagacityThiefTree.png

Ambush Moves

  • AMBUSH STUN: Done from hiding, will attempt to give the opponent a nasty crack on the head that has the potential to knock them completely unconscious. Causes head damage and short duration unconsciousness. Can be performed with any melee weapon with at least a certain level of impact damage (fair or somewhat moderate?) and possibly a minimum weight requirement, or with special brawling equipment sold in Thief shops. Success is based on your stealth and backstab ranks while weapon ranks play a minimal role. A minor bug causes creature corpses to rapidly decay if you deliver a killing blow with ambush stun. Requires 25th circle, learned in Ratha.
  • AMBUSH SLASH: Done from hiding, will attempt to cut the back of the opponent's ankles in order to drop them to the ground in pain. Requires at least fair slice on the weapon, 39th circle, and is learned in Ratha.
  • AMBUSH SIGHT: Done from hiding, blinds and disorients your target, assuming you hit. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the strike. Requires second circle, dirt, and is learned in Crossings.
  • AMBUSH SCREEN: A technique to surround oneself with dirt, blinding and disorienting nearby foes, as well as revealing any who may be trying to lurk near you. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the attack. Can be done in and out of hiding. Requires 30th circle, dirt, and is learned in Ratha.
  • AMBUSH CLOUT: Done from hiding without a weapon, this attack will put a target to sleep temporarily. Requires 50th circle, and all ambushes available before 50th. Learned in Ain Ghazal.
  • AMBUSH IGNITE: Done from hiding with naphtha in hand the left hand, a sharp weapon in the right, requires at least 1 coin of any value on your person, will attempt to douse the target with naphtha and ignite them; lowers armor value according to GM Ricinus oblique comments. Requires 60th, and is learned in Shard.


SLIP <person> COIN <ear|nose|mouth|wound> <easy/hard> [Sleight of hand magic]
SLIP <person> <amount> (<type> <name> OPTIONAL) [Silent giving of coins]
SLIP <right|left|item> [Silent stowing of an item into your packs]
SLIP <item> [Silent getting of an item from your packs]
- Addition 1: Works on WORN items.
- Addition 2: Works with items ON THE GROUND.
SLIP <person> <right|left|item> <pack|hand> [Silent giving of items]
STALK <person|creature> (while unhidden) [Hide + Stalk of target]
SNEAK <direction> (while unhidden) [Hide + Sneak in direction]
SLIP HELP Lists known Slips
SLIP TEACH <person> Teach slips to eligible people

Voice Throw

Some Voice Throw abilities are learned from a guild leaders, others are taught by Bard player characters who also possess the Voice Throw abilities but with slightly different uses.

  • Different directions. THROW VOICE OUT <message>.
  • Objects you see lying around. THROW VOICE <item> <message>.
  • Items in/on/behind/under item on the ground. THROW VOICE <item> in/on/behind/under <item> <message>.
  • Items on critters. THROW VOICE <item> on <critter> <message>.
  • At critters. THROW VOICE <critter> <message>.


See MARK for full details.

Reduced Load While Hidden

With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden.

Important Skills

Survival Skills

Thieves need to train a minimum of 8 survival skills to advance consistently in the guild, with Stealth and Thievery skills as a Soft Requirement; meaning they can also count as Nth skills.

Some survival skills Thieves might find important:

Weapon Skills

Thieves need two weapons to advance in the guild. Most thieves would suggest one to be a Small Edged weapon user for employ in backstabbing, as well as general combat.

If not at first, by later on in a Thief's career they will probably want to train the Brawling skill and be trained in the use of either Bow skill or Crossbow skill as well.

A Thief may also want to train Light Thrown weapons if they wish to excel at throwing dirt in the face of their opponents.

Lore Skills

Three of the many lore skills are required for gaining circles as a thief. Tactics, Appraisal and Scholarship are excellent choices, as is one of the various crafting skills.

Armor Skills

Leather Armor is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light stealth hindrance. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorbtion.

Many elder thieves and rangers alike have found themselves using tanned (player made) leather torso armor with chain armor on their hands and heads in modern times, due to chains better protection against critical stunning hits, and negligible hindrance because of their already high level of ranks in the Leather Armor skill, as well as for the benefit of more TDPs. For this hand and head protection Thieves typically find Light Chain the armor of choice.

The best store bought full body armor for a beginning Thief is likely the race size-specific set sold in Shard, which run for a little under 6 plat dokora, and have very good protection with moderate hindrance. Despite this many choose to go with the more hindering sets sold on Ratha or in Riverhaven, due to them being much, much cheaper. Wolf Clan leathers are not recommended due to their high weight, which will effect newer player's encumbrance more. Note that the hindrance mentioned here is the evasion hindering type, as all leathers now have the exact same amount of stealth hindrance regardless of protection and combat hindrance.

Magic Skills

Thieves do not have any abilities that teach any of what are considered the core magical skills. They currently may not harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth, or perceive the mana in a room. Thieves have been banned from employing runestones, although in the past such practices were allowable. They may however learn the arcana skill by itemic means that do not require them to harness mana or mentally prepare the spell. Items a Thief may learn the arcana skill from include: a fan sold in the Crossing's Estate Holder Shop (Zephyr spell); ilmenite-tipped wands (Lightning Bolt spell), scheelite rods (Fire Ball spell), and indakar rattles (Protection from Evil spell) sold down in Shard; azurite Thief charms (Shadows spell) and indakar-eyed cat charms (Protection from Evil spell) from a festival merchant; and the legendary Achaedi Crystal. Most self-activating magical devices that taught magic skills are currently not working under the Magic 3.0 system.

Guild History

Kalag Ka'Hurst founded the Zoluren Thieves Guild around the start of the Elanthian Calendar, just as the Dragon Priest war was ending. All guild leaders following have taken the name "Kalag" as their own, until the most recent leader, Varsyth, who has stated he will not follow in that tradition. Varsyth has since adopted the name Kalag the Sly.

Kalag's tale and therefore the founding of the guild is described in two books residing within the Zoluren Thieves Guild library:

The memoirs tell of how Kalag first came to River Crossing, fleeing his hometown which had been beset by famine. Kalag came across an old man being attacked in the streets and helped fight with the old man. After the encounter Kalag learned the man was a well-known locksmith named Lyanothe, who then offered to teach Kalag many skills in return for Kalag's work as a runner and business partner.

One day their hideout was discovered and Kalag proposed they move to the sewers, for its easy access to anywhere in the city and its superior defensibility from foes. Kalag and Lyanothe became well known and opened their home to locksmithing students. This band of students began cross-training each other in skills that collectively made them qualified thieves. Kalag proposed they form a Thieves Guild and bring in other members from around the town that were engaged in criminal enterprises.

Kalag planned to have the guild recognized by the city council, but then the Dragon Priest army came to town. The Thieves Guild united against the army and their cunning helped defeat the Dragon Priests. Their actions and some support from the shrewd Trader guildleader earned them official acknowledgment by the city. And thus the Zoluren Thieves Guild was formed.

Thief Council

The governing body of all Thieves Guilds in the Five Provinces. Little is known.

Major Thief Events

  • Inquisitor Anamir's discovery of the Zoluren and Therengia Thief guild halls.
  • Ishtvan's attempt to violently overthrow Kalag and install Ladoc as new Zoluren Thief Guild leader and the deal made to train Ishtvan's men in the Crossing's sewers.
  • The Thief Guild Council suspects Kalag the Black's loyalty to the Guild.
  • Zoluren General Zukir's destruction of the Zoluren Thief guild and Kalag the Black's subsequent death.
  • Varsyth, later known as Kalag the Sly appointed new Zoluren Thief Guild leader.

Thief Merchants

Circle Requirements

Circle 1st Armor 1st Weap. 2nd Weap. Parry Ability 1st Surv. 2nd Surv. 3rd-4th Surv. 5th Surv. 6th Surv. 7th Surv. 8th Surv. Stealth Thievery 1st Lore 2nd Lore 3rd Lore
1-10 2 3 1 1 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 1
11-30 2 3 2 2 4 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 3 2 2 1
31-70 2 4 3 2 5 4 4 4 4 3 2 3 3 3 2 2
71-100 3 4 3 3 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 4 3 3 3
100-150 3 5 4 3 6 6 6 5 5 5 3 4 4 4 3 3
150+ 8 13 10 8 15 15 15 13 13 13 8 10 10 10 8 8

Thievery and Stealth are soft requirements (can be used toward Nth survival requirements).

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